Hi, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonia Dodge.

One time when I was seven years old I felt a shift. It's a line to a song. Is it?

When I was seven years old.

Do do do do to do. I don't know my son's listening to all the time. I just had to make comments. Oh I didn't know my son's listen to all the time I just had to make a comment.

Oh I didn't know that that was a line to song. I'm not gonna get the name of the

song but it just reminded me that song. I think that that's that newfangled young

people music which I've been out of the music scene for a while,

and because I'm old and I don't listen to as much music.

So, or I just listen to the same music I've been listening to for a long time.

So anyway, once when I was seven years old,

put whatever tune you'd like to to that.

If somebody wants to like grab my voice and turn it into one of those like autotune song things you certainly can.

I had a major shift happen and like a little bit before that. My family was going through a rough time at that age for me.

There was a lot of anger management issues happening in the household.

And in retrospect, you know, I thought it was my dad, but then I realized that a lot of it's actually kind of on my mom's shoulders.

And it was just a really tense, angry context at around that time period. Now Now I was the youngest in my family by quite a bit.

In fact, I was an unexpected child many years after my sister was born. My sister and I were six years apart. My

brother and I are almost nine years apart. And they were not expecting me. My

mom tells this story about how like when she found out she was pregnant

with me she cried. Wow. Wow.

Well and then I heard your heartbeat for the first time and it made me feel warm and so happy that you were

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