Making Hiring Human with Joe Dunikoski

Entrepreneurs on Fire

John Lee Dumas

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🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Joe Dunikoski is the founder of Verso Jobs - a gamified, data driven hiring platform and service built to make hiring human.

Top 3 Value Bombs

1. Hiring based solely on resumes is broken. It's time to evaluate the whole person, not just a piece of paper.

2. Happiness at work directly impacts productivity, retention, and even your company’s financial performance.

3. Growth mindset, fast learning, and being personable are more valuable than most hard skills.

Check out Joe’s website to hire or find mission-aligned, happy work - Verso Jobs

Transcript

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0:00.0	Boom. Shake the room, Fire Nation. JLD here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire, brought to you by High Level, the all-on-one sales and marketing platform.
0:09.8	Today we'll be breaking down, making hiring human. To drop these value bombs, I brought Joe Darnockiski in the Eofire Studios.
0:16.7	Joe is the founder of Verso Jobs, a gamified data-driven hiring platform and service built to make
0:21.7	hiring human.
0:23.1	Today we'll be chatting about common hiring mistakes and how they affect your business.
0:26.3	We'll talk about the solution, how potential employees are good fits, the happiness
0:30.6	advantage, and oh, so much more.
0:33.3	And a big thing of sponsoring today's episode goes to Joe and our sponsors.
0:41.9	Are you ready for the ultimate's all-in-one platform for entrepreneurs, marketers,
0:47.7	coaches, and agencies, build funnels, automate follow-ups, manage clients, and even white label your own software.
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1:05.5	It's no wonder they have the best converting checkout on the planet. If you want to see less cars
1:10.1	being abandoned,
1:12.8	it's time for you to head over to Shopify.
1:15.6	Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com slash on fire.
1:22.6	Joe, say what's up to Fire Nation
1:24.8	and share something that you believe
1:26.7	about becoming successful that
1:28.4	most people disagree with. Yeah, hi John. Thanks for having me on. And I think that this one might
1:36.1	catch a lot of people by surprise because it's definitely not very common. And what I think is actually
1:43.0	super important to remember about becoming successful is that
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