I'll give you an easy one. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? It's the egg.

Eggs have been around for 340 million years or so, while the chicken first appeared at most

58,000 years ago. So it's the egg. Or if you want to look at it another way, when the first

chicken appeared in the evolutionary timeline, the egg with

that chicken in it was laid by something that was almost, but not quite a chicken. So it's

still the egg. I'm not an egg. The show isn't an egg. It's DePresh Mode. I'm John

Moe. I'm glad you're here.

Now we'll move on to a slightly harder question.

Does someone have a hard time making friends because they deal with depression and anxiety?

Or does someone deal with anxiety and depression because they have a hard time making friends? I got no answer on that one. But it might be a question that Gabe Molika has spent some time mulling over.

Gabe is a comedian in New York and he's the creator and star of an off-Broadway one-man show called Solo, a show about friendship. Gabe has, at various times,

found himself without friends, albeit with bros, he'll explain, and also he's found himself depressed

and anxious. I wanted you to hear his story, because there's a lot in it about how we reach out to

other people, and why we reach out to other people

and how that sometimes works out for us.

Gabe Malika, welcome to Depression Mode.

It's really, really exciting to be here.

As I was telling you, John, I've been listening for a long time and to all different types of guests. So this is very cool to make an appearance. Excellent. Well, thanks for listening.

What is your show solo about? So the main premise is that I get on stage and I just say, I turn

30 and it occurred to me that I don't have friends. And it's a pretty jarring statement because I'm pretty

affable. And I think some people are like, get out of here. What are you talking about? You have friends

in your life. You're nuts. And I kind of make the distinction between like I have friends and I have

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