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Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio.

Good morning.

This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast. Today's

tip is to make yourself a haven. Some spot of your home where you feel calm and you're not constantly feeling like

you should be doing something else. Back before 2020 ended conferences for the

foreseeable future.

I gave a lot of time management speeches.

And one of my biggest laugh lines came when I talked about saving time by lowering your

housekeeping standards. I riffed that people would tell me that they

couldn't relax if their home was a mess. Okay I said clean one room shut the

door and sit in there. I said it as a joke but I think there is real merit to this idea.

Lots of people find it hard to relax when they see undone work.

Whether that's your laptop sitting there, or a pile of dishes, or something that is clearly

in the wrong place. The instinct is to go deal with the problem, so that then you can fully

relax, but you can see how this plays out.

It takes a long time to clean a whole house or put everything away,

and then it might come out again,

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