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Make Conservatives Great Again

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4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk talks to Charlie Sykes, editor-in-chief of conservative outlet the Bulwark and author of How the Right Lost Its Mind,” about Trump and the GOP, conservative vs. liberal values, the rise of tribalism, constitutional norms, Steve King, and how to get both sides of the aisle talking in a meaningful way again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Charities across the country are now helping federal employees with groceries and food here in DC today.

0:04.8

Full-load workers and contractors lined up for a free meal from humanitarian and chef Jose Andres

0:10.0

as the Department of Agriculture revealed it may not have funding for food stamps if the shutdown

0:14.8

continues past February. The president says he's been tough on Russia than any president ever

0:21.3

just want to narrow-vote in the Senate to ease sanctions on companies tied to a Russian billionaire

0:26.1

with close connections to the Kremlin. This president has said and done so many

0:31.2

and sensitive and figurative and racist plans. If you support him, people like me want to

0:36.7

understand why you ignored so much.

0:44.3

Hello, welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Yasha Monk. It can get tiring to follow everything that's going on

0:51.6

in the unpleasant mind of Donald Trump day after day. It's easy to feel like it's just one great

1:01.2

sea of shit washing over us. One day it is a nasty tweet that is inflammatory, that insults people

1:11.2

that is utterly unpresidential. And the next day it is bloating the idea of a national

1:18.2

emergency in response to the shutdown. Well folks, one of the pieces of really hard intellectual

1:25.6

work that we have to do in order to keep clear about what the situation is, is to distinguish

1:32.8

between those kinds of things. There are all of an nasty tweets and all of the ways in which

1:39.4

Donald Trump is a deeply unpleasant human being and a deeply irresponsible politician.

1:45.5

And then there are the things which should make all of our alarm bells go up.

1:52.0

The national emergency absolutely is one of them. If you talk to any historian, any political

2:00.8

scientist, any scholar who has studied the rise of authoritarian movements, the crises of democracy

2:11.2

long before our particular moment, they will tell you that calling national emergencies

2:19.0

for spurious reasons is one of the absolutely key tactics which will for a terrain leaders

2:26.4

employ. That doesn't mean that Donald Trump is going to succeed. We can stand up to him in the

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