Happy Halloween, everybody.

For this episode of the Peripheral, I speak with Joe Diamond, who is a mentalist, a magician.

I'll let him talk about all of the things he does.

I was going for creepy and paranormal, but we end up talking about his performance on Penn and Tellers, Fool Us,

and we go into philosophy, his upbringing, and he even does a few magic tricks for us.

I thought it was a very fun conversation.

I wanted to do something a little bit more lighthearted for Halloween.

So I hope you guys enjoy it.

We could talk about whatever you want today, Joe.

I'm fascinated by the things you do.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

But literally you can tell me about your childhood all the way to how you got to where you are. And I'm an active participant here.

For anyone who doesn't know who I am, which is most people, to be totally fair.

You have a following. You say that like I have a cult, which is the backup plan if show business doesn't pan out.

Hey, it's a ride off and you don't get taxed, right?

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

We're going to go deep right now.

Apparently a stage magician was the one who told Anton LeVay that if he notified his performance company as a church, he could

be tax-free.

So the legend goes, you know.

I mean, both those people are, of course, known for exaggerating.

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