Hello, welcome to Theology Pugcast. Anyway, it's great to have you here. Christmas is behind us,

and we're looking forward to the new year, 2025. Man, that is so weird to say that. I mean, when I was a kid,

you know, I remember 2001 of Space Odyssey and all the stuff I associated with the year 2001

and that came and went. We didn't have anything that they had in 2001 Space Odyssey. One of those

things, thankfully, was there's no hell 9,000 back then, although maybe we're going to get that

in the year 2025 based on all the stuff I'm reading.

Anyway, enough of that.

I'm just sort of like kind of in a sort of a rabbit hole mentally.

But let me come out, poke my head out and say, hello.

I'm C.R. Wiley.

I'm a pastor.

I serve at Church in the Pacific Northwest.

I write stuff. My most

recent book is in the House of Tom Bommodil. And I've got a short story that just came out

not too long ago with Canon Plus on the Reverend Ricky Jayhue Clay household Hellspon extractor.

And anyway, I've had fun with that. But I'm also a senior editor at Touchstone Magazine.

Enough about me. Tom, how about you? I'm Tom Price. I teach theology, Christian ethics at Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary and few other places, do some writing and speaking, and, again, a lot of other things.

I'm a dad.

So this is a sudden show we're recording today, and so Tom was a little tired.

That's right.

Anyway, it's not been that many, but we did another show earlier anyway uh glen it's

your your show today uh what are we talking about well um my intro as usual i am glen sunshine

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