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🗓️ 27 June 2025
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0:00.0 | Well, Kurt, you know, one of your points was that the Iran file was kind of hot from the get-go when Trump took office again. |
0:06.6 | And that issue was kind of particularly vexing from your point of view, right? |
0:11.7 | From the kind of MAGA restrainer, America first purists, Iran has always been kind of maybe a weak spot for Trump, where a place where he seemed vulnerable |
0:22.1 | to persuasion to do certain things, if you want to put it that way. And I guess what I'm saying |
0:26.1 | is what change in these past weeks or months? What made Trump move more recently? Well, he was |
0:32.1 | about to sign a deal. So, I mean, Trump tweets out or truths out, I believe, like in the dead of night or the early morning, |
0:39.5 | two separate times a video of this Iran negotiator, Ali Shumkani, who is punitively consigliere to the |
0:48.5 | Supreme Leader. And he is the head of the Iranian negotiating delegation. |
0:53.6 | Trump tweets this guy out and like |
0:55.8 | Shumkani basically says again and again, we have a deal. No nuclear weapon will sign it. And then |
1:03.3 | on the strike day, you know, the morning of the 13th, the Israelis try to murder him. So when we |
1:10.2 | talked to you a few months ago, you were feeling pretty good, right? |
1:14.0 | About how well, you know, the restrainers were winning the kind of transition fights, right? |
1:19.1 | You were getting your people in the right places. |
1:20.8 | You have Tulsi Gabbard at D&I. |
1:23.0 | You have Bridge Colby in the government now. |
1:24.9 | And you guys got Mike Waltz out. And there's this story that we've |
1:28.6 | told, and I think we told last time you're on here, that like of the lower rungs of the sort |
1:33.6 | staffing apparatus of the administration, especially those younger people, they tend to be even |
1:37.9 | more so, you know. And my point is that you guys, especially relative to Trump one, you got into a |
1:43.7 | pretty good position with staffing |
1:45.0 | here. And you might have imagined that that would mean that in a situation like this, you might |
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