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MAGA's Secret Civil War! Is This The Year Congress Gets Serious About Stocks? (with Dave Levinthal)

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Justin Robert Young

Election, History, Trump, White, Government, House, Riots, Mail, Biden, News, Politics

4.6870 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

There’s a civil war happening inside the MAGA coalition, and unless you’re really in the weeds, you probably haven’t heard much about it. It’s not being covered seriously, either by the traditional media or the independent press. And that’s a shame — because it pits two foundational visions of conservatism against each other. On one side, you have Grover Norquist and his ironclad “no new taxes” pledge. On the other, you have Steve Bannon and his populist charge to eat the rich.

Norquist has spent decades making sure no Republican dares raise taxes. His philosophy is clear: low taxes are good for everyone, rich or poor, and raising them is political suicide. He’s survived every GOP iteration — from neocon war hawks to MAGA populists — by keeping that line firm. But now, Trump’s “one big, beautiful bill” may include a tax hike on the wealthy. Norquist is sounding the alarm, warning that breaking this promise would be as foolish as George H.W. Bush’s infamous “read my lips” moment.

Meanwhile, Bannon doesn’t just want to raise taxes — he wants to send a message. He sees MAGA as a working-class movement, and taxing the rich is part of proving that Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and the GOP’s old donor class no longer control the party. It’s the clearest philosophical fault line we’ve seen on the right in years. If the GOP embraces even a modest tax hike on the wealthy, it could mark the end of a Reagan-era consensus that has defined Republican politics for half a century.

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And yet, barely anyone is talking about it. Not because it isn’t interesting, not because it isn’t important, but because media — mainstream and independent — is stuck on one setting: “trouble for Trump.” It’s a framing device. Every Trump story must either confirm that he’s a danger to democracy or a bumbling fool. Anything else? Not interesting enough to cover.

Steve Bannon, who’s all over mainstream shows like Real Time with Bill Maher and Stephen A. Smith’s podcast, is out here advocating a radical repositioning of the Republican tax platform — and the headlines are all about whether Trump should run for a third term. And I get it, that’s the clickier angle. But it’s also lazy. We’re watching tectonic plates shift, and we’re still playing with bumper stickers.

That’s not just a mainstream media problem, by the way. It’s an independent media problem too. There are great voices on Substack and elsewhere that have done real work to break free from traditional narratives. And yet, over the last few weeks, I’ve seen far too much content boil down to one question: “Is this an outrage? Yes or no?” And when the answer is always “yes,” you’re not informing anymore — you’re reinforcing.

My goal isn’t to register my opinion on every current thing. My goal is to give you something that still feels relevant five years from now. Something you can remember discovering here before it hit the mainstream. I’m not always going to say the thing that fits into someone’s ideological slot. That’s going to disappoint people sometimes. I get that. But I hope the tradeoff is worth it. Because if you’re giving me your time and maybe even your money, I owe you something rare. Something original.

Something honest.

Chapters

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:58 - MAGA’s Secret Civil War

00:19:35 - Update

00:21:05 - Signalgate 2.0

00:27:14 - Pope Francis

00:30:51 - Student Loan Debt Collection

00:34:50 - Interview with Dave Leventhal

01:13:34 - Canadian Election with Evan Scrimshaw

01:27:11 - Wrap-up



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0:00.0

On this edition of the program, is Donald Trump going to tax the rich?

0:04.3

And if you haven't heard about that, why?

0:06.9

Dave Leventhal joins the show to talk about congressional stock trading and political action

0:12.0

committees getting thieved.

0:14.2

And Evan Scrimshaw is on the program to talk about the Canadian election, all that, plus

0:18.9

Hegg Seth, plus the Pope, it's all coming up.

0:25.0

The following is brought to you by just another pilot.

0:32.1

Politics, politics, politics, politics.

0:34.4

Politics, politics.

0:34.5

Oh, media for us. Politics, politics. Hello and welcome everybody to the Politics, Politics Program program for April 23rd, 2025-year-old

0:58.4

Justin Robert Young joining you here in Austin, Texas.

1:04.2

And we got a hell of a show here for you.

1:07.3

The money man, Dave Leventall, back better than ever, talking about

1:12.1

thieving from super PACs, politicians that are breaking the rules, the rules that they set,

1:19.3

by the way, when it comes to trading stocks and Evan Scrimshaw comes to join the show

1:27.0

and gives us a little bit of a peek into the upcoming

1:30.3

Canadian election. So we are going to get a little Canadian here. The NHL playoffs has begun.

1:37.6

So, you know, we got a little bit of that for you. That and, you know, we'll be there for all the big topics that, I mean, a hell of a Monday,

1:49.4

Pete Hegseth under siege, the Pope dies, and then, of course, everything that's going on with the economy.

1:58.6

But we're going to begin with something that you might not have heard.

2:04.3

Did you know that there is currently a civil war going on within the MAGA alliance

2:09.4

that pits one of the most untouchable rules of conservatism against the populism that is

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