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Commune with Jeff Krasno

MAGA Messaging and Sun Worship with Jamie Wheal

Commune with Jeff Krasno

Commune Media

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.5673 Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the Commune Podcast, Jeff Krasno speaks with executive director of the Human Genome Project Jamie Wheal about how ancient wisdom and modern science can come together, how we're failing Mother Nature and - really - how Trump rallies provide a sense of community. This podcast is supported by: Vivobarefoot Go to Vivobarefoot.com/commune where you’ll receive 25% off LMNT Get a free sample pack with any purchase at DrinkLMNT.com/COMMUNE Puori Go to ⁠Puori.com/COMMUNE⁠ use promo code COMMUNE to save 20% on a one-time purchase Bon Charge  Get 15% off when you order at boncharge.com and use promo code COMMUNE Pique Go to https://piquelife.com/jeff for 15% off your order, plus a free rechargeable frother.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Commune podcast. My name is Jeff Krasnow. Today I'm joined by Jamie Weill.

0:05.2

Jamie is a best-selling author, speaker, and researcher, specializing in the intersection of neuroscience,

0:10.9

cultural history, and human performance. As the executive director of the Flow Genome Project,

0:16.7

he has worked with organizations ranging from Google to Red Bull to the U.S. Special Operations Command,

0:24.0

helping leaders in teams harness peak states of consciousness for creativity, healing, and connection.

0:30.7

His book's Stealing Fire, co-authored with Stephen Codler, and Recapture the Rapture,

0:36.2

explore how altered states, ancient wisdom, and modern

0:39.1

science can help individuals and societies navigate meaning, resilience, and flourishing in

0:45.2

turbulent times. As you'll hear in this episode, we get into deep cultural, spiritual,

0:51.2

and political topics, including, and don't tune out, how Trump rallies

0:56.0

actually provide a strong sense of community that the left has not found a way to replicate.

1:02.1

We discuss the strange intersection between Christian Nationalists Project 2025ers and

1:07.8

technocrat billionaires. We talk about how the right is better at messaging than the

1:14.1

left. But don't worry, we don't talk politics the entire time. We cover a lot of human history

1:18.6

from early human sun worship to how losing our sense of awe at mother nature leads us to

1:24.7

disrespect our natural resources.

1:28.0

This conversation was originally held live on Substack.

1:31.1

For more interesting live conversations, musings, and ad-free episodes, head over to

1:35.6

jeffcrasno.substack.com.

1:37.8

Okay, without further delay, here's my conversation with Jamie Weill.

1:43.0

All right, Jamie Weill.

1:45.6

How you doing, buddy? Doing great.

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