MAGA is Imploding in Real Time

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.9 • 2.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell and JVL discuss the Elon Musk and Donald Trump breakup thats amplifying throughout all of MAGA, how the primaries for New Jersey governor and New York mayor could shape the future of both parties, Joni Ernst’s comments on everyone dying show how much MAGA is losing their minds, and Curtis Yarvin’s dangerous influence.

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0:00.0	If Elon, if they can't rain him in, I think he becomes a genuine problem for them.
0:05.6	He has been the muscle and enforcer on Twitter for other bills.
0:11.8	Like, Elon has been there to help Trump push them through.
0:15.4	Like, there are ways in which these two guys start to end up pitted against each other.
0:21.4	Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friends, Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the
0:29.0	bulwark. Tim, I would like to do a little HR whistleblowing with you now here as a witness.
0:35.6	I was on a show for this media company on Monday with one of my colleagues,
0:42.6	and she referred to my meat heat.
0:46.3	And in the moment, I didn't catch that.
0:50.2	But afterwards, people started texting me and saying, what is Sarah?
0:56.4	You're me.
0:57.0	Who uses that phrase?
0:58.5	That is a horrifying phrase.
1:00.4	That is like moist.
1:01.7	Never let her say that again.
1:03.3	That is worse than moist.
1:04.5	Way worse than moist.
1:06.1	Oh.
1:07.6	Okay.
1:08.3	What do you have to say for yourself, Sarah?
1:10.3	You're right. This is fair. But I'll just, I'll say for yourself, Sarah? You're right.
1:11.0	This is fair.
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