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The Next Level

Live in Chicago! Pardons, Authoritarianism, and Xanax

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.92.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Live from Chicago, Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, and JVL break down the latest wave of Trump pardons, the rising authoritarian behavior from GOP leaders, and the Democratic Party’s identity crisis. Also, who is the worst (and best?) cabinet member so far, and what comes next.

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0:00.0

I think everybody knows I have some pretty strong views when it comes to the El Salvador prison.

0:05.1

But there's part of me.

0:07.4

It's like, maybe we keep it open just for Marco.

0:14.9

Hello, Chicago. I'm JVL.

0:18.7

And I'm here with my best friends,

0:21.3

Sarah Longwell,

0:22.1

Tim Miller of the bulwark.

0:26.7

It's a rowdy crowd.

0:28.0

I don't know if you caught segment one.

0:29.5

There are people shouting pussy out there.

0:32.5

It's like a goddamn.

0:37.0

I take it they didn't listen to the full Pete show

0:39.9

because you brought out something else

0:42.6

that was a first on the bulwark.

0:44.7

I did.

0:45.7

Did he say the C word?

0:47.1

On the George Packer Show, it was not Pete.

0:48.9

It was on the George Packer Show.

0:50.3

Yes, it was the George Packer Show.

0:51.3

I did say the C wordward but in the British sense I said that Jady Vantz

0:54.7

says a cunt

0:55.4

but in the British sense

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