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All In with Chris Hayes

MAGA civil war erupts after Musk clashes with Trump loyalists over skilled immigration

All In with Chris Hayes

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4.65.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2024

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Guests: McKay Coppins, Charlie Dent, Michael Beschloss, Paul Krugman, Jeff Guzzetti, Jonathan Alter, Stacey Abrams, David Dayen, Asawin Suebsang, Sam Brock , Kavitha Davidson Tonight on a special two-hour edition of All In: The MAGA “food fight” fueled by Elon Musk. Then, the extraordinary life of Jimmy Carter. Plus, after the deadliest air disaster in years, what we know about what went wrong in South Korea. And the suspected ring of thieves targeting pro-athletes across the country.

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0:00.0

Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. We still have three weeks until Donald Trump is sworn into his second term. There's no denying that with some genuine political canniness, Trump has cobbled together an unwieldy and in many respects somewhat unlikely political coalition.

0:20.7

And that coalition delivered him the first outright popular vote victory for a Republican since

0:25.5

George W. Bush in 2004. It's only the second time it has happened since the end of the Cold War.

0:31.2

Now Trump has to actually govern. And that is typically when all the internal contradictions

0:35.8

in any political coalition rise to the surface. We're not even to inauguration yet. And that is typically when all the internal contradictions in any political coalition rise to the

0:37.6

surface. We're not even to inauguration yet. And that factional fighting, I would argue, is bigger,

0:43.6

more glaring than almost any other I've ever witnessed in American politics. You're seeing that

0:48.9

right now in the battle over immigration, which has been exploding among the MAGA right.

0:53.1

Basically, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramoswami,

0:55.9

the tech overlords who appear to be running Trump's second-term agenda, rely on highly skilled

1:01.7

immigrants to power their enterprises. Those immigrants come to this country to work with an

1:06.1

H-1B visa, which provides terms that are extremely favorable to their employers and also an amazing

1:11.1

opportunity for the folks coming to work here. Folks basically have to stay at their job in

1:16.0

order to stay in the country. If they leave their position, they have two months to find a

1:19.9

new job or risk getting deported. So you can see why someone like Elon Musk likes them so much.

1:26.1

For example, this is not abstract, when Musk bought Twitter

1:29.5

and a huge percentage of the staff headed for the exits, Vice News reported on how Twitter employees

1:34.3

on visas can't just quit. The other side of the debate over the H-1B visa is the one that

1:41.6

folks like Stephen Miller and Stephen Bannon have been pushing for years,

1:46.0

that we should restrict, limit, perhaps, and all immigration in the U.S., legal and illegal, right?

1:52.6

Stuff at the border around asylum, but also H-1B visas.

1:56.5

I mean, just listen to the two of them on Bannon's old radio show back in March of 2016.

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