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Maduro's Ex-Chief Tells Me TERRIFYING TRUTHS About Venezuela - w/. Temir Porras

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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0:00.0

So what the hell happens with Venezuela now? Is it essentially now, what a colony of the United States with a gun stuck to its head?

0:06.9

With the acting President Delci Rodriguez essentially just a de facto puppet of the United States? Is that what happens?

0:15.7

You know, what does this mean for the future, not just in Venezuela, but obviously far beyond that as well.

0:21.3

There's no better person to speak to you than Tamir Paras, who was actually the former chief of

0:24.8

staff to President Majura as though before he was president of Venezuela. He's a brilliant

0:30.3

analyst, managing director of global sovereign advisory. Tamir Phyllis, the big honor to talk to you. Great to see you. Thank you for having

0:41.4

Owen. It's always a pleasure to talk to you. Always. Now, we'll talk about Major and all the

0:46.6

rest of it, because I know people will want to hear about that and what's happened with Venezuela

0:50.9

in the last few years. So just so everyone's aware, we're going to come on to that.

0:55.5

Just your response, did you, I mean, we've had this build-up for months.

1:01.2

We've had Trump's threats for months.

1:04.5

We had an oil tank being seized by the United States.

1:08.6

Did you expect this to happen?

1:12.7

Well, given the anticipation, all the buzz around this military mobilization,

1:18.9

the seizure of the cargoes, as you mentioned, it definitely was a scenario that one

1:25.0

could anticipate, nonetheless, the horrifying image of the U.S. military bombing your city and invading your country is never something I imagine you can be ready for.

1:42.6

And there's always this shocking effect on your, I would say, dignity, love for your country.

1:49.8

And yeah, you think of all the principles you've stood for politically in the past and see this unraveling is both a confirmation of the imperial nature

2:07.6

of the United States and its global policy.

2:11.6

It's a confirmation also of the nature of the current administration because it must be said that it's not every day that any U.S. administration has intervened in Latin America, at least.

2:26.0

So I think the region, as Venezuela is first, and the region has come to a moment of realization that we definitely have entered,

2:36.6

I don't know if necessarily a new moment, but it's probably a return to experiences

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