Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SCS Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor.

It is a podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime.

Tonight, no different.

Interestingly, all three of my guests popped up simultaneously.

Now, one, we don't see the camera and the other.

I don't know where Ryan went, but we are going to get Ryan back and we will figure it all out.

Not to create any sort of hierarchy, but pretty much everything that happened today and has been happening in recent days is all legal.

So if not, we'll have Dave Nutting immediately pivot into being an attorney.

But, yeah, this is a really difficult case, obviously, for many, many reasons.

Talking about Maddie Soto here, beautiful young, 13-year-old living in the Orlando area.

Little recap for those who don't know the story, obviously very heartbreaking. She went missing

back on February 26th of last year of 2024. And then her mother's boyfriend, a guy named

Stefan Stearns, is arrested two days after she goes missing. And then four days later, they discover

Maddie's body on the side, basically, of a rural road in Osceola County. All this raising tons of

questions about what was going on in this household.

What was happening, you know, prior to her, to her murder, the relationship between her and the mother's boyfriend.

And then the mother, a lot of people believe she should be held responsible.

And we'll ask Detective nutting about that.

So on to the best guess who hopefully will be back momentarily.

Anna Sonoda, who you're not saying, but she might be able to hear us.

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