You know the problem with doing a running gag?

When you forget to do it.

Timothy wrote to me yesterday, no gobbles today?

I must say I was awaiting the gobbles at the end of today's show and alas I got chow gobble gobble send from my

iPhone I promise to make it up to you. This is Mac OS Ken.

Today we talk to a cool person doing a really cool thing. It is Thursday the 23rd of November, 2017.

I'm Ken Ray and this is a special edition of Maco West Ken brought to you by yours truly and sponsored by

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dot com slash Maco-Scan. It's Thanksgiving here in the States. Time to watch a parade, gather with friends and family,

walk five kilometers, watch football, do puzzles, come together in communion.

Plus some of you might go shopping later.

As we consider things for which we're grateful, I gotta say I'm grateful to know a lot of

really cool people who do really cool things.

Podcasters, musicians, producers, actors, artists.

I love that they're all out there doing what they do.

And I want to bring you a conversation with one of the people I know today.

Rick Smolin is the CEO of Against All Odds Productions.

He's a New York Times best-selling author.

As a photographer, he's worked for time, life, and National Geographic.

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