You're listening to live courtroom coverage of the trial of Karen Reed from the Hidden Killers podcast and True Crime Today.

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All right, so I'll watch the first one, then I'll hear your argument, Mr. Brennan, and Mr. Jackson.

Thank you.

So, Ms. Gilman, if you play that first one, please.

They had pulled into the driveway before me.

So I was presumed she saw my crack tailing and was thinking, did you hit my son?

I could sense from her that she was looking at me very wearily.

And then when John's nephew came home, I just wanted to see him and squeeze up.

It was quite uncomfortable.

I said, Dad, come upstairs to the master bedroom.

I said, I think I need to leave.

Because I think John's mother thinks I did something to jump.

All right, so tell me why I should something to jump.

All right, so tell me why I should admit that clip. You should admit this clip because it demonstrates consciousness of guilt.

On the morning of John's death,

Ms. O'Kee sees her son at the hospital and goes back to Mr. O'Kee's home.

In the driveway is the alleged murder

weapon, the Lexus with the broken taillight. It's the middle of a snowstorm, and a prelude to

that is there is a phone call from the defendant's father to the Dighton police looking for a ride

to go in and see his daughter at the Good Samaritan Hospital.

He's looking for a police ride because the weather conditions are so terrible.

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