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On Being with Krista Tippett

Lyndsey Stonebridge and Lucas Johnson — On Love, Politics, and Violence (Channeling Hannah Arendt)

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Society, Spirituality, Society & Culture, Sociology, Culture, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Social Sciences, On Being, Arts

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2024

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Here is a stunning sentence for you, written by Lyndsey Stonebridge, our guest this hour, channeling the 20th-century political thinker and journalist Hannah Arendt: "Loneliness is the bully that coerces us into giving up on democracy." This conversation is a kind of guide to generative shared deliberations we might be having with each other and ourselves in this intensely fraught global political moment: on the human underlay that gives democracy its vigor or threatens to undo it; on the difference between facts and truth — and on the difference between violence and power. Krista interviewed Lyndsey once before, in 2017, after Hannah Arendt's classic work, The Origins of Totalitarianism, had become a belated runaway bestseller. Now Lyndsey has published her own wonderful book offering her and Arendt's full prescient wisdom for this time. What emerges is elevating and exhilaratingly thoughtful — while also brimming with helpful, practicable words and ideas. We have, in Lyndsey's phrase, "un-homed" ourselves. And yet we are always defined by our capacity to give birth to something new — and so to partake again and again in the deepest meaning of freedom. Hannah Arendt's other epic books include The Human Condition, and Eichmann in Jerusalem, in which she famously coined the phrase "the banality of evil." She was born a German Jew in 1906, fled Nazi Germany and spent many years as a stateless person, and died an American citizen in 1975. This conversation with Lyndsey Stonebridge happened in January 2024, as part of a gathering of visionaries, activists, and creatives across many fields. Krista interviewed her alongside Lucas Johnson, a former leader of the International Fellowship of Reconciliation who now leads our social healing initiatives at The On Being Project.

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0:00.0

Here is a stunning sentence for you written by Lindsay Stonebridge my guess this hour

0:05.9

channeling the 20th century political thinker and journalist Hannah Arend

0:11.5

loneliness is the bully that coerces us into giving up on democracy.

0:17.0

I interviewed Lindsay once before in 2017 after Hana Arend's classic work,

0:23.5

The Origins of totalitarianism

0:26.0

had become a belated runaway bestseller.

0:29.6

Now, Lindsay has published her own wonderful book offering her own and

0:34.8

a rent's full prescient wisdom for this time. What emerges is elevating and

0:41.4

exhilaratingly thoughtful,

0:43.7

while also brimming with helpful, practical words and ideas.

0:48.9

It is a kind of guide to generative deliberations we might be having with each other and ourselves in this

0:56.7

intensely fraught global political moment.

1:00.7

In fact, I encourage you to listen to this show alongside someone else and in friendship

1:06.6

to metabolize its gifts of perspective on the human underlay that gives democracy its vigor or threatens to undo it,

1:16.5

on the difference between facts and truth, on the difference between violence and power.

1:24.1

And on the way we have in Lindsay's phrase,

1:26.8

un-Homed ourselves, and yet how we are always defined by our capacity to give birth to something new and so to partake

1:36.5

again and again in the deepest meaning of freedom.

1:42.0

I'm Krista Tippett and this is on being.

1:45.0

Hana Arren's other epic books include The Human Condition and Aichmann in Jerusalem, in which she famously coined the phrase, the Benality of Evil.

2:01.0

Arent was born a German Jew in 1906, fled Nazi Germany, and spent many

2:07.8

years as a stateless person and died an American citizen in 1975.

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