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This is Recode Media from the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Lydia Pullgreen in for Peter Kafka.

I'm the editor-in-chief of HuffPost, but I'm here today at Vox Media Headquarters in New York to talk to Alan Russ Bridger.

He's the former editor of The Guardian and the author of several books. His most recent is called Breaking News, the remaking of journalism and why it matters now.

Alan, welcome to Recode Media. Delugedged to be here.

So, Alan, this book is part memoir, part rallying cry for a beleaguered

profession. And I want to start with a question that speaks to both of those. You began as

editor of The Guardian in 1995, which was just at the moment when websites were starting to appear,

the internet was becoming a thing. And I'm just curious casting your mind back.

What was top of mind for you as the biggest challenge that you'd face as a new young editor?

And how quickly did the internet sort of emerge and burst forth as a primary concern for you?

Well, I had a gut feeling.

I had traveled to America to see the internet because it was difficult to see the Internet in 1993.

And nobody had a clue.

I remember going to the New York Times, and they just didn't believe the Internet would ever be used for news.

So that was how clueless everybody was.

But I did have a sort of broad sense that Prince days were numbered and the

internet, whatever it was, was going to be huge.

And I think from the moment that I started editing, I thought this might be the story of my

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