Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, S.T.

And welcome to another episode of surviving the survivor of the podcast that

promises to bring you the very best guest in all of true crime.

We are live in Orlando for the

Saraboon trial. What a wild morning session. We're going to get into all

that in just a moment the best guests. First timer last night can be eaten and she is a former

private investigator for 30 years for the public defenders office now in

private practice and then we've got Susan Constantine a very well known

jury consultant and a human behavior expert and she's the owner of the human behavior lab and what is the precise title of the book seven

how to spot a liar in seven seconds or less how to spot a liar in seven seconds or less look out for the book

it's coming out soon so before before we get into the insanity that was this

morning that I'm still trying to figure out exactly, Susan let me know and Candy as well.

They were sitting actually with some members of the defense scene.

And we have been told that the jurors, the six primary jurors were in the first six chairs in the front row left to right

however that is now not the case as far as we know. Is that right, Susan?

Well, the way I understand it is the first,

who we thought was going to be the juror for person,

juror number one on the far left,

closest to the jury, or closest to the witness box was going to be our juror

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