Hi and welcome to the Cat in Cloud Coffee Podcasts where all your dreams come true and

dad speak from the heart.

I just want to thank you guys for tuning in and say, hey, real sorry

about that Adam Mettleman screw up last week over Skype. We fixed everything and I think we know

how to move forward, but we just want to claim it and own it. We blew it. Don't give up on us.

Don't give up on us, baby. Don't be shi-bye.

Anyway, at the end of that episode, we did get a little bit of a good rant between Adam and Chris after I hung up.

And let's be real. I had two different inputs and my kid was screaming everywhere.

Freaks me out too, all right? But I changed some diapers. I made it happen.

And let's take some of those nuggets that Chris and Adam talked about and let you guys hear them.

Next week, Samuel Luwanton, hotness from Everyman espresso. All right, here it is.

Dude, okay. I have a couple random cultural yes that i get asked all the time that maybe you could kind of clear up like what the heck is the difference between a flat white

and a cappuccino uh yeah i think that's a massive argument going on still between the

Australians and the the the kiwis on who invented it first.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

But I think probably you'll find now, if you'd ask me 10 years ago, a flat white would have been, you know, half a centimeter of textured milk and obviously no chocolate,

you know, like that, that's essentially, but the same size as a cap. Okay. So a cap 10 years ago for

me, it's probably different for everybody, but a cap 10 years ago for me was a third espresso,

a third heated milk and a third textured milk. Got it.

So in the same size vessel, it would have a little bit more texture.

Yeah.

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