Hello and welcome to Made by Mommas the podcast. I'm Zoe Hardman and I'm Georgia Dayton.

And this is your parenting safe space where no conversation is off limits. With five kids between

G and I, we have seen a lot. We really have. Each week we'll be joined by some famous faces and

experts and we'll chat about the brands and products that have saved us along the way.

In short, we're the parenting podcast for you. Before we get started, hit subscribe or follow so you're the first to know when each episode lands. And they're on Tuesdays and Fridays. And it really helps if you leave a rating and a review. You can also find us on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mumas. But for now, George, should we get into it?

Hello, it's just me. God, we're getting used to this now. Actually, Zoe was with us earlier, but she wasn't feeling well. And in the spirit of who we are at Made by Mommas, we don't force people to stick around if they're not feeling well. And if you're not, you have to go home. so it is, it's just me chatting away. Just a quick one

before we get into the chat. I put on socials the other day about Gigi having her ears pissed.

She really wants to have her ears pissed. She's six. And can I just say thank you to everybody

who wrote in to give their opinion because lots of people were, you know, very much like,

oh, I want to do it as well, but I just think it's not, it's not acceptable, you know, are they too

young? And then other people like, Georgia, it's just a pair of earrings, just let her do it,

like whatever. And so I'm going with that. It is just a pair of earrings. Like, seriously,

I'm not like putting her on Onlyfans, but, you know, she's not, like, that's not where we're going

here. It's just a pair of earrings. So I'm going to let her do it. And yes, she probably will have to

sit out of PE for three weeks. But that, you know, who am I to

argue with a six-year-old who wants some studs in her ears? So that's where I'm at. But today,

we are talking all things, business, growing a business, how to even start a business and when

you should start a business. Also, how that feeds into

motherhood. Do we like the term girl boss? Do we hate it? Or mum boss? And so we have a founder on the

podcast today. She started her company six years ago. It's called Six Stories and she is sharing sort of

guess how she did it. And it's very different to a normal founder story. It's not an overnight

success. She talks about the fails that she's had in the past. She also works with her husband

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