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Welcome to True Crime Brewery. I'm Jill.

And I'm Dick.

So now we're back for part two of the fascinating and disturbing case of convicted child killer Lucy Lettby.

Since part one, we've reviewed interviews with her accusers, her defenders,

scientific experts, and nurses who either worked in neonatal units, in the Countess of Chester neonatal unit,

or worked directly with Lucy Letby.

We've also read the available evidence and testimony from her trials.

Join us at the quiet end for Lucy Lettby, the common denominator, part two.

So today we're going to talk you through Lettby's trials and what has been going on since her convictions.

Dick's been doing his homework as well, and he'll share his interpretations of the statistical and medical evidence, the outcomes, and published opinions surrounding this case. But first and

foremost, we need to have a beer. Well, I'm going to stick with the same brewery as part one, Samuel Smith.

We're going to drink some nut-brown ale today. I really like this one. I'm not a big brown ale fan.

This is quite good. Medium brown color. Nice-sized head, some pretty lace. Aroma is kind of a

chocolate-multy aroma. Taste follows the nose. Some some chocolate little coffee, some nuts, nuttiness, and just a tiny bit of late hops, a little bittering.

So a pretty drinkable beer.

Sounds pretty drinkable.

I've got an idea.

Why don't you open up a couple for us?

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