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It's Bolzai. I'm Jesse Thorne. We aren't really in the age of supergroups anymore.

I mean, every once in a while, you'll hear that, like, Flee is playing with a radio head guy or something like that.

But what was the last traveling willberries we had? What was the last Belbiv DeVoe, Crosby Stills Nash and Young? A band of stars

that ends up becoming more than the sum of its parts and makes some 100% grade A bangers.

Well, I submit to you

Modern Day Supergroup, Boy, Genius.

Always an angel, left.

I don't know why I am, the way I am.

There's something in the static, I think I've been having Phoebe Phoebe Phoebe

Bridgers,

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