Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host host Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran hiding your Steely Dan records to make younger musicians

think that you're cool or else a scrappy upstart, prominently displaying your Steely Dan records

to impress the old heads, this is your show. Because ultimately it is what every writer seeks

most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the second Friday of February 2021, and I thank you for joining us.

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