Loving Him Was Redbird (The Summer I Turned Pretty with @lucyontheground)

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Kate Kennedy

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🗓️ 24 August 2025

⏱️ 113 minutes

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This week, Kate brings in a friend of hers and a friend of the pod, Lucy Carey (aka @lucyontheground), for an in-depth discussion about the series “The Summer I Turned Pretty" [ALERT: the TV series version, they aren't book experts]. They explore the cultural phenomenon of the series, its massive viewership, intense stan-dom, the love triangle, and complex character dynamics between Belly, Conrad, and Jeremiah (and Redbird??). They go through key moments, episodes, character motivations, songs, Easter eggs, Jere and Belly’s biggest flops, and so much more. Don’t listen if you aren’t open to speculating about the ending :) Enjoy!Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1756322382267376&usg=AOvVaw2jDYX7yPPe9dddzYpbfzae)!Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH!Thank you to AllModern for furnishing Kate's Season 2 Studio! AllModern has the best of modern furniture and decor all in one place. Check out allmodern.com (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://allmodern.com&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1756322382267376&usg=AOvVaw1RgOqJkt5I73vCFnLhFZ2K); you'll find Kate's bookshelves here (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.allmodern.com/furniture/pdp/annora-63-h-x-63-w-geometric-bookcase-a000142700.html?piid%3D90101977&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1756322382267376&usg=AOvVaw3DN1N031atS6CRva1aQAmr) and her new rug here (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.allmodern.com/rugs/pdp/virgina-southwestern-yellowcreambrown-area-rug-a000668129.html?piid%3D600621059&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1756322382267376&usg=AOvVaw2PdtkXGw0pLLbaFv7ERVrc)!Go to cookunity.com/bethereinfivefree (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://cookunity.com/bethereinfivefree&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1756322382267376&usg=AOvVaw0liM_eV3J70rCZyuOJVxZa) or enter code bethereinfivefree before checkout for Free Premium Meals for Life. Terms and conditions apply. Go to Cookunity.com for details.Savor the last bits of summer with Liquid I.V. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to LIQUID-IV.COM (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://LIQUID-IV.COM&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1756322382267376&usg=AOvVaw3e_BJMt6geZEZIImZnf5jD) and get 20% off your first order with code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Today or some quiet Sunday morning when you’re feeling inspired, visit Sixpenny.com/BeThereInFive (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://Sixpenny.com/BeThereInFive&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1756322382267376&usg=AOvVaw1-dHOHqkcK1FqrWyHfZkbG) for a stroll through their impeccably designed pieces, and perhaps even order yourself some free swatches.Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://OSEAMalibu.com&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1756322382267376&usg=AOvVaw0S-aTzkjJdndDXPKEjoVFS). You’ll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $50.

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0:00.0	Hi, everybody.
0:10.8	Welcome back to the Be There in Five podcast.
0:12.7	I'm Kate Kennedy, your host.
0:15.4	Today we're talking about not just another TV show, but cultural phenomenon, I'd say.
0:23.3	The summer I turned pretty.
0:25.3	It, a series that pulled in 25 million viewers for its season three premiere week.
0:31.4	Like that's some Super Bowl stuff right there.
0:33.1	The numbers are insane for what, you know, for what from a distance could appear just to be another book adaptation series.
0:41.6	This is actually a YA novel adapted into a series.
0:45.1	And the numbers are insane.
0:46.3	There are over 83 million TikTok post tagged with just Team Conrad alone, not even counting Team Jeremiah, you know, yesterday or general show tags.
0:55.9	And people get into like serious debates on the internet about the characters, about the
1:00.3	relationship dynamics, Amazon Prime to issue actual community guidelines telling fans to stop
1:05.2	harassing the cast members.
1:06.9	Like, anyways, so there's a lot of enthusiasm here.
1:10.1	But I get why people are so invested because I am too.
1:13.5	Like, I don't get the harassment part, obviously.
1:16.0	I think part of what makes it so great is it hits this perfect balance of nostalgia and kind of timeless relationship discourse.
1:24.0	And at first I was just talking about, like, I was kind of going deeper and this is so unnecessary,
1:31.0	analyzing Belly Conklin versus Bella Swan because I think they're a fascinating example of the
1:37.2	mid to late odds trope of woman as vessel in their neutrality and they're being defined by the men who adore them, which is kind of an unfair
1:47.9	reduction. Maybe I'll put that on Patreon. But, you know, some conversations I tend to focus on the
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