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Lovett or Leave It

Lovett or Leave It Presents: Bravo, America! (with Rachel Lindsay)

Lovett or Leave It

Crooked Media

Comedy, News

4.725.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Rachel Lindsay talks about what it's like to go from being a lawyer, to Bachelor contestant, to the first Black woman to be the Bachelorette. Can you actually find love on these shows? Can you ever trust that it's real? And what role to do fireball shots play in the process? Plus Rachel reflects on the moment she realized producers were preparing her to lead the franchise, even as they seemed to be worried about racial stereotypes in how she might be perceived by the audience. She talks about the perfect storm that led to Chris Harrison’s fateful interview on Extra which ultimately led to his ouster from the Bachelor world entirely. And Lovett does ask about the fantasy suites, but from a place of concern and confusion, mostly.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This podcast is supported by the Obama Foundation. The Obama Foundation is helping to lift up emerging

0:05.0

leaders with the tools, training, and support they need to meet this moment in history. At a time

0:09.9

when democracy feels under pressure, the Obama Foundation is investing in the next generation of leaders.

0:14.4

These young changemakers are stepping up in communities around the world, turning ideas into action

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and challenges into solutions. The Obama Foundation

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believes that leadership is not about one person. It's about building movements, fostering collaboration,

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and creating lasting impact. Through programs, mentorship, and community engagement,

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the foundation equips young leaders with the skills and tools they need to tackle today's

0:33.6

toughest challenges from civic engagement to education, social justice, and climate action.

0:39.3

Hope isn't passive. It's hard work. And the Obama Foundation is giving emerging leaders the resources

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they need to turn hope into meaningful change because when we empower people to lead,

0:48.0

we unlock the future and you can help. Donate today by visiting obama.org slash youth. That visiting Obama.org slash youth.

0:55.7

That's Obama.org slash youth.

1:00.6

Hey everybody, it's John

1:04.1

Lovett and welcome back to

1:05.2

Love It or Leave It Presents

1:06.2

Bravo America. I'm sitting down with some of my

1:08.5

favorite personalities from reality TV because

1:10.6

you cannot

1:11.1

understand politics in this moment. If you don't understand the dynamics of reality television,

1:15.7

take a listen to how Congresswoman Sarah McBride put it on Pod Save America earlier this year.

1:20.0

Some of my colleagues are treating me the way they are treating me for a couple of reasons.

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