4.7 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2023
⏱️ 64 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another episode of iWave with Jameela Jamil, a podcast against shame. |
0:04.3 | I hope you're well and I hope you're ready for a very different type of chat. |
0:07.7 | We go into some of the areas that we normally would around social justice and race and love |
0:14.4 | and social infrastructure, but then we pour out into ayahuasca and spirituality and poetry |
0:23.5 | and learning how to understand ourselves and learning how to love ourselves and the world and |
0:28.8 | it all becomes very philosophical and existential and I felt very challenged and pushed by my |
0:34.5 | guests. It is the absolutely inimitable Kalechi Okafo, who is an amazing social commentator |
0:40.0 | and now author and podcaster and human extraordinaire who i've admired for a really long time on line. |
0:47.6 | She is one of the most outspoken voices in Britain and i think one of the most important voices |
0:51.9 | of our generation, someone who i have been intimidated by the brain of for ages so to me |
0:58.4 | years to ask her to come on the podcast because i was nervous that she'd say no or that she might |
1:04.4 | be someone who doesn't like me or she might think i'm a stupid twat but it turns out she was |
1:08.8 | incredibly warm and kind and gracious and came onto the podcast and really shared her soul and |
1:15.2 | delivered such a beautiful conversation about so many massive important things in life and |
1:20.4 | deeply personal, relatable, intricate things and she talks about her book The Edge of Here, |
1:26.8 | which was published on September 14th out now and is such a fascinating collection of short stories |
1:34.8 | around love from all these different unexpected angles that takes us back through history and |
1:39.6 | forward into kind of science fiction. There's no way for me to be able to fully describe it as well |
1:44.6 | as she's going to in this episode and also you should just read it because i think it's going to be a |
1:49.2 | very important piece of work. I hope it gets turned into TV shows and films. I think that this is the |
1:55.0 | beginning of a very cool new chapter for Kalechi and so if this is your first time getting to know her |
2:01.4 | i'm so thrilled to be a part of that journey and if you've been following her for ages like I have |
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