Sam is out of surgery and Louise goes to pick him up, expecting it to be funny. However, seeing him on vocal rest, with the roles reversed, feels very different to what she imagined.

We get into the unexpectedly sweet and slightly strange things we love about each other. Louise admits she likes Ryan’s BO, and Ryan shares a small habit of Louise’s she’d rather keep private. Then come the letters. A whole bag from Louise’s past. She reads from her diary at 18, written just before her first breakup, including “tips” she gave herself nearly twenty years ago. Do they still ring true?

We finish with Ryan. Why he’s taking on another Ironman, what’s behind it, and the reaction to Montana’s recent comments about parents going away, which opens up a bigger conversation about whether you’re allowed to choose yourself once you’re a parent.

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[00:00] Coming up on this episode

[00:30] Sam Thompson's surgery and recovery

[05:08] How Louise felt seeing Sam in hospital

[11:01] What is cuffing season?

[22:13] Should you talk about exes with your partner?

[27:30] Louise reads her old diary from eighteen

[34:04] How do girls process emotions compared to boys?

[38:15] Why Ryan is undertaking another Ironman?

[43:58] Our thoughts on Montana Brown critiquing absent celebrity dads

[46:08] Next week…Louise's dad joins the podcast!

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