The Hey there. Yes, the voice is still not quite back. My lungs are doing their damn just to keep me silent wisely, probably.

But here I am managing to do another podcast this week, which I really wanted to do.

Thanks for all the feedback about last week's discussion of what's going on on the far right and what the thought is behind it. This week, we're also going to have a

critique of liberal modernity in a different way. Louise Perry is a writer and longtime campaigner

against sexual violence. And this year, she co-founded a non-partisan feminist think tank called The Other Half,

where she serves as research director.

Her first book, Just Out, is called The Case Against the Sexual Revolution,

A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century. Louise, thank you so much for coming on

British cast. Thank you. It's lovely to be here. And you're English, right? Obviously.

I'm in English, yeah, yeah. Although the book is out here just as permanently is in the UK.

Tell me, where did you grow up in England? And what was your

background like? So I'm, my parents are Australian, actually. So I'm, I'm sometimes told I have a

very slight Australian accent, though. That's a controversial point, more than Australian relatives.

But I was born here in London and have lived in London pretty much my own life. And I mean, I think my

background as being very boring, but I suppose everyone thinks that because it's normalised to

them. So I come from a, you know, a happy, stable, middle class upbringing. My father's a lawyer.

My mother's an academic. So the point of my biography that is probably most, becomes most pertinent to the book,

is I did anthropology and women's studies at university. And then after I left, I worked at a

rape crisis center as a support worker. Tell me what, when you studied women's studies,

what did you start? What was, presumably this was the

Bible that you were taught. Tell me what the, because I never took women's studies.

Tell me what, what basically is the gist of that curriculum. Well, it does vary between

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