Welcome back to the City Journal podcast.

I'm your host, Charles Fain Lehman, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and senior editor of City Journal.

Joining me on the panel today are Jesse Arm, politics guy at the Manhattan Institute,

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Arnold, Education Lady at the Manhattan Institute.

Can I call ladies guys?

Yes, yeah.

I'm clear what the policy is.

Okay, you can be a guy if you want to be.

And Carolyn Korman, mental health policy guy at the Manhattan Institute.

Thank you, everybody, for joining me.

We got to set up a – we like to have ladies and gentlemen on the panel. We're in favor of that.

I want to take us, though, straight into the news of the day. We've been following a little bit the feud between now quashed between Elon Musk,

outgoing advisor to the president and President Donald Trump. It seems like they publicly mended

fences. Elon has sort of retracted his more extreme comments about the president.

The president seems also to sort of have tried to walk back.

The whole thing sort of been pushed down.

Maybe Elon is starting a third party.

Maybe not.

It's a little unclear.

But I'm, you know, I will admit, not that interested in the drama of it all and more interested in what comes after this.

You know, Elon Musk is sort of symbolic of this Silicon Valley shift to the right.

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