Anti-ICE Riots Are Completely Unjustified
City Journal Audio
Manhattan Institute
4.8 • 615 Ratings
🗓️ 9 June 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Charles Fain Lehman, Nicole Gelinas, John Ketcham, and Rafael Mangual discuss the violent protests in Los Angeles, the New York City Democratic mayoral primary, and the best Broadway musicals.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to a very special in-person episode at the City Journal podcast. |
| 0:13.2 | I'm your host, Charles Van Lehmann, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and senior editor |
| 0:17.7 | of City Journal. |
| 0:19.1 | Joining me today on this All-New Yorker in New York panel are my colleagues in Colgolinas of Manhattan, John Ketchum of Queens, and Ruffman Gwal of Long Island. I got that all right, right? Yeah, I got the geography correct. That's true. That's true. He's originally from Brooklyn. Yeah, so we got three boroughs here. We're all New York. Do we have any colleagues from Staten Island? |
| 0:38.6 | We need Staten Island representation at the Manhattan Institute. |
| 0:41.5 | We used to have some. |
| 0:42.5 | We used to have some. |
| 0:43.3 | Shout to Isaac Gordefke. |
| 0:44.6 | Might just pervade the Institute. |
| 0:47.0 | I love Staten Island. |
| 0:49.1 | It's America's most urban deep red county, and I respect them for that. |
| 0:54.5 | I want to take us right into the news of the day. |
| 0:58.6 | President Donald Trump, or the National Guard deployed in Los Angeles after anti-ice |
| 1:04.0 | protests turned into violence rioting, things burning the usual. |
| 1:10.1 | The protests in turn come after an increase in immigration enforcement. |
| 1:14.6 | In California, Democrats are charging ICE and Trump with provoking the protests. |
| 1:20.4 | Meanwhile, Republicans are saying this is yet another example of democratic lawlessness. |
| 1:25.0 | So I'm going to throw it to the whole panel. |
| 1:26.7 | What do we make of these events? |
| 1:28.7 | What's going on in Los Angeles? |
| 1:30.5 | It's not Trump who provoked the protests. |
| 1:33.4 | It's people like Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom who made these spectacular statements using, you know, all kinds of apocalyptic language saying that, hey, you know, this is a terror campaign and this is, you know, |
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