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What's up Nate? Hi Charlie. I haven't seen you in like a week because we took a little break after being on an extensive book tour.

To everyone who came out to see us, thank you so much. I can't put into words how meaningful it was to meet in person people who listened to our show, who have written us, but we've never seen face to face.

We can't wait to go out there and do more live events, like ideally all over America and the world.

Stay tuned. And if you haven't yet, check out our book. It's really fun. We're super proud of it.

It's called Smushed On Pop, How Popular Music Works, and Why It Matters.

Thank you that I guess that's important. If you like the kind of stuff we do on the show, I think you'll really did the book.

It has great illustrations and we dig into 16 classic songs from the last 20 years. It's, yeah, it's fun.

Yeah, so let's hop into our episode and just a quick warning for folks, there is some completely innocuous vulgarity in it.

So if you're with really little ones, it's like passionate vulgarity from just loving something so much that you need to curse.

I don't think it would be too offended.

Which dawn pop?

Welcome to Switched On Pop. I'm songwriter Charlie Harding, and I'm musicologist Nate Sleen.

Selena Gomez, the former Disney TV star, turned pop act, has had a challenging number of years from her very public breakup with Justin Bieber, as well as some difficult health complications, leading to a retreat from the public eye.

And she's back now with an album called Rare, which offers a quite confessional look at what it takes to overcome emotional and physical adversity.

And it comes across in a very direct and vulnerable way.

In addition to offering a behind the scenes look at growing up in the public eye, this album is Gomez's most successful, generating her first number one hit, Luziou to Love Me.

Yes, a song I absolutely love and continually mispronounce.

Love me to Luziou to Love to Luziou to Love.

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