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‘Long Way Down’ and ‘The Hate U Give’ are modern classics about gun violence

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🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

The final episode in our Back to School series focuses on two contemporary books that tell stories about gun violence. First, Jason Reynolds’ 2017 novel in verse Long Way Down centers on a moment of decision that occurs when a teenage boy is on his way to avenge his brother. In today’s episode, Reynolds speaks with NPR’s David Greene about avoiding one-dimensional characters and promoting literacy. Then, Angie Thomas’ 2017 debut The Hate U Give is about a girl who attends school in a neighborhood that’s very different from where she lives. In an interview with NPR’s Lulu Garcia-Navarro, Thomas discusses codeswitching and combatting the “ghetto girl” stereotype.


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0:00.0

Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaung. We're going to wrap up back-to-school

0:06.5

week with a couple books that are relatively new to school reading lists. In a bit, we'll hear

0:12.3

from author Angie Thomas talking about her book The Hate You Give. But first, an interview with

0:17.3

Jason Reynolds talking about his 2017 book Long Way Down. It's a book about

0:22.2

loss, revenge, grief, and gun violence. And in this interview with NPR's David Green,

0:27.8

Reynolds talks about avoiding empty cliches when writing about the perpetrators of gun violence.

0:34.1

That's after the break.

0:36.3

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0:41.1

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0:45.7

On our new show, Sources and Methods.

0:47.7

NPR reporters on the ground bring you stories of real people helping you understand why distant

0:52.7

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0:55.3

Listen to sources and methods on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:00.4

The writer Jason Reynolds has a new novel out this month. It focuses on a moment of decision

1:06.8

that occurs in an elevator where a young man is on his way to avenge the killing of his brother.

1:13.0

The novel is called Long Way Down and Jason Reynolds came by our studio.

1:17.0

I asked him first if he'd read a passage from the book.

1:20.3

I stuck the cannon and the waistband in the back of my jeans, the handle sticking out like a steel tail.

1:26.6

I covered it with my two big t-shirt. The name brand

1:29.7

hand me down from Sean. The plan was to wait for Riggs in front of his building. Me and Sean were

1:35.9

always over his house before Riggs joined the gang, and since then, Sean had been up that way a bunch of

1:41.5

times to get Mom special soap. I figured it would be safest if I went in the morning. If I timed it right, none of his crew would be out yet. No one would ever suspect me. I'd hit his buzzer, get him to come down and open the door. Then I'd pull my shirt over my mouth and nose and do it.

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