In his new novel ‘The Secret of Secrets,’ Dan Brown takes on human consciousness
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🗓️ 22 September 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's NPR's book of the day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. I was in high school when the |
| 0:06.6 | Da Vinci Code fever hit. It was one of those books that was just everywhere. I'd actually be |
| 0:11.7 | hard pressed to think of a novel since that's had such a large cultural impact. Well, |
| 0:18.0 | the book's author, Dan Brown, is back at it again with a follow-up. This one is called |
| 0:21.9 | The Secret of Secrets. And listen, at the end of the day, these are mystery thrillers, right? But |
| 0:27.0 | in this interview with NPR Scott Detrow, it's clear that Brown is just using the genre as a |
| 0:33.3 | vehicle to ask some really big questions about human consciousness and what really happens after we die. |
| 0:41.6 | That's ahead. |
| 0:43.1 | In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life. |
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| 0:58.3 | helping you understand why distant events matter here at home. |
| 1:02.1 | Listen to sources and methods on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:07.7 | Robert Langdon is back in action, the dashing and brilliant Harvard professor who has a knack for |
| 1:13.6 | wandering into situations where he unearths big philosophical questions and at the same time |
| 1:18.3 | gets chased around by bad guys who do not want those questions answered. Langdon is, of course, |
| 1:23.2 | the recurring main character and author Dan Brown's thrillers, The Da Vinci Code, Angels and Demons, |
| 1:27.5 | and many others. In Brown's latest novel, The Secret of Secrets, Langdon has traded the mysteries |
| 1:32.0 | of Christianity and the mysteries of Freemasonry for the even bigger mystery of the nature |
| 1:36.4 | of human consciousness. Dan Brown, welcome to all things considered. Thanks for having me. |
| 1:41.0 | So this is by My Count, your sixth book starring Robert Langdon. |
| 1:45.7 | How has he changed over the years? |
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