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Welcome on third episode already.

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Nate Duncan here joined by John Hollander.

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us get this thing off the ground and convince the incredible luminary, John Hollinger, to continue

doing this podcast with little old me. You did not call me podcast veteran John Hollinger.

I'm saving that for episode four.

All right, well, let's talk a little basketball here instead of discussing our boring lives.

You wrote a piece this week on the Toronto Raptors.

You're up there for Ring Night.

We talked about that a little bit last week.

But their team, especially getting off to this pretty decent start now, some good growth from their young players.

And the idea of just where they go from here is a fascinating one. I think the place I want to

start with that, though, is, and I think this is always important when we go through this, of

trying to figure out what a team's

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