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Long Term Care or Roll The Dice?

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

We're joined by Frances Reaves, who shares insights from her work in estate and Medicaid planning, on how to get your parents ready for long term care. Frances explains the importance of preparing for elder care before it's urgently needed, sharing her personal experience with her own parents and husband, who is currently navigating Alzheimer's care. The conversation dives into the realities of elder care, including the challenges of navigating the healthcare system, the high costs of in-home versus facility care, and the value of long-term care insurance. 

We discuss... 

  • Francis Reads is an elder law attorney specializing in estate and Medicaid planning.
  • She founded a service within her law firm called “Parent Your Parents” to support elder care planning.
  • Elder care generally begins around age 65, when Medicare becomes available.
  • A major challenge in elder care is systemic apathy and poor communication in facilities.
  • In-home care is the gold standard if money is no object, costing $12,000–$15,000 per month.
  • Reverse mortgages and long-term care insurance are common strategies to fund elder care.
  • Long-term care insurance works similarly to car insurance—ideally unused but crucial.
  • The cost of long-term care and facilities can quickly deplete even sizable retirement savings.
  • The best age to purchase long-term care insurance is between 55 and 60.
  • For-profit facilities are incentivized to keep patients alive, not necessarily to improve their quality of life.
  • If you have no one to care for you, plan ahead with long-term care insurance, savings, and legal documents like power of attorney and healthcare proxy.
  • People who choose to provide full-time care often risk financial ruin if long-term care plans or savings are not in place.
  • There’s potential to arbitrage life expectancy in financial tools like reverse mortgages or life insurance.
  • Many elders struggle with losing independence, especially around giving up driving.
  • Adult children often become parental figures to their own parents, which can create emotional strain.
  • Financial advisors and lawyers play a key role in spotting and preventing elder financial abuse.
  • Professionals should watch for signs of undue influence or financial exploitation and speak up if concerned.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.0

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.0

Hello, the Smart Money Tree Podcast listeners. Welcome to this week's show. My name is Kirk Chisholm. I'll be your host.

0:15.0

And today I'm joined with Francis Reeves. How you doing today, Francis?

0:19.0

I'm doing great. Thank you, Kirk. How are you?

0:22.3

Doing great. Glad to having the show. For those of the listeners don't know, Francis,

0:25.6

maybe you can tell us a bit about your background. Well, I am what we call an elder law attorney.

0:31.3

I do estate and Medicaid planning. I recently wrote a book, Boomers Booming, How to Thrive After 65 and Have Good Sex. And the

0:42.3

reason for that book was really partly motivational. In other words, you got to go out,

0:46.9

have a good time. This is it. This is the last quarter. And you've got to plan your life

0:52.6

prior to going out and having a good time because that then

0:56.7

allows you to go out and have a good time. And the reason I wrote that book is because I took

1:03.2

my parents through their last three years of life and I had no idea how hard it is to get anybody's attention.

1:13.7

Because I'm an elder law attorney, I went ahead and created a company within my law firm,

1:20.8

a DBA doing business as called Parent Your Parents.

1:24.6

And we aim to be sort of a one-stop shop. And believe it or not, I have helped people

1:31.6

from Texas, from California. You know, being an elder doesn't make it easier if you're from one

1:38.0

state or the other. So that's sort of how you got me here today. Let's talk about elder care.

1:45.5

As you would define elder care,

1:51.9

what would fall into that definition? Elder care, for the most part, is anyone over 60 to 65.

2:00.4

I mean, 65 is when we get Social Security if we want. And as a right, Medicare becomes our insurer of choice at 65.

2:03.6

So I think your elder care defines folks over 65.

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