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Good Friday… Good Times… Bad Markets

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Good times... Bad markets! Today we talk about recent volatility in the market, particularly in the bond market, as there is a lot of geopolitical uncertainty that are coming with Trump’s economic moves. There may be a market downturn of up to 40% and the Fed will respond most likely respond by cutting rates, a familiar cycle in which political and monetary forces intervene to stabilize markets. Ultimately, if there's a recession, we still don't need to panic, the US markets are still strong so invest accordingly!

We discuss...

  • Market volatility recently spiked to levels not seen since COVID, driven by geopolitical and fiscal uncertainty.
  • Trump’s unpredictable moves reintroduced risk into the markets, which had become too complacent.
  • The Fed is currently in a wait-and-see mode, which markets interpret as a lack of proactive response.
  • Trump criticized the Fed for not following the ECB in cutting rates, claiming it weakens U.S. competitiveness.
  • The podcast host believes the market can handle high rates and criticized Powell’s pre-election rate cut as political.
  • A continued market selloff is expected, with potential drops of 30–40% in the S&P 500 this year.
  • If markets decline significantly, the Fed is likely to step in and cut rates to stabilize things.
  • Historically, market declines have been followed by Fed intervention, which then props markets back up.
  • A mild recession is likely before any recovery, but the overall economy remains fundamentally strong.
  • Tariffs are currently painful for businesses but are viewed as a negotiation tactic rather than a permanent fixture.
  • Markets dislike uncertainty, and the next six months are expected to be rocky before clarity returns.
  • Keeping cash on hand is advised to take advantage of potential lower asset prices
  • Americans are generally uncomfortable with negotiation and volatility compared to the rest of the world.
  • Manufacturing may not fully return to the U.S., but diversification is critical for national security.
  • Time dilation and recency bias cause people to misjudge the permanence of current events like tariffs.
  • Leaders like Trump and Powell are motivated by legacy, not destruction.
  • A stronger dollar could hurt gold and hard assets but elevate the U.S. as the most stable economy.
  • Investors should routinely reassess their holdings to see if they would still buy them today.
  • Always identify the potential exit point for any investment to manage risk.

 

Today's Panelists:

Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth
Douglas Heagren | ProCollege Planners

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.8

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.7

Hello, Smart Money 2 Podcast listeners.

0:12.4

Welcome to this week's show.

0:13.3

My name's Kirk Chisholm.

0:14.3

I'll be your host.

0:15.0

So today I'm joining with Doug Hagerin.

0:16.5

Hey, Doug.

0:17.2

Good morning, Kirk.

0:18.8

Good morning.

0:19.2

Good afternoon.

0:20.6

What?

0:21.8

This afternoon. Oh, good afternoon. We were just having a nice conversation. What? This afternoon.

0:26.8

Oh, good afternoon. Well, yeah, it is. Everywhere except, you know, unless you're listening in Denver.

0:32.7

Everywhere that matters. Yeah, that's right. So I'm on the Mississippi divide right here in the Twin Cities.

0:37.5

But other than that, you know, west of the Mississippi, nobody's paying attention to right now.

0:41.3

That's all right. I'm from Boston. So as long as it's not mine back yard, I don't really care what happens. We're a different breed over here. What Kirk cares about is having a drink with

0:45.7

an umbrella in it. That's what happens. Only if I have my pinky raise, though. And not because you

0:50.9

want one million dollars, right? One me.

0:56.7

And now it's one trillion dollars.

0:58.4

That movie has not aged well.

1:02.3

By the way, I believe they are coming out.

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