All right, you guys, this is going to be a long run episode of me and my friend

Ali Bailey. She's been on the show before. I'll put a link in the show notes to her

prior interview where we basically just talked about music.

Allie is a really, really interesting lady.

She's in recovery from alcoholism.

She's found running later in life and she's she's funny. She's a really interesting person. She worked in the music industry

She's she's got a great life story and then she wrote this book which it's called

There is No Wall by Ali Bailey and it's got a great picture on the cover of

her smoking a cigarette next to a chalkboard that says running won't save you and

that's one of the takeaways from the book is that, you know,

it's running's not a cure-all and if we're flawed and screwed up as most of us are,

we're going to be flawed and screwed up people in the running world too and it's a really good book. I really liked it. I really love Ali like she's one of my favorite people in the world. I wish I could I wish you lived down the block so we could talk all the time and I apologize in advance she like forgot that she had another

podcast scheduled and she just had to like leave suddenly in the middle of it I assure

you that it wasn't she didn't like bail on me it was was just like oh shit. I forgot I have another

podcast. Anyway, Ali's awesome. Her book is awesome. It's available on Amazon. There is no

wall. I will put a link in the show notes. know the routine you buy the book you send me the

screenshot I send you a buff you do a review I'll say two buffs I think you really like this book

and it's not a how to run book it's not a this is the you know all the tips and things like that it's more of a

memoir about someone's life and running it's right up our alley this episode is

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