All right.

Here's going to be a long run episode.

We did two gang shows in a row.

So we got to do two long runs in a row

just to make up for things.

This is Dave McGilvery.

He's the race director of the Boston Marathon.

I don't know why he agreed to come on our show,

but I'm glad he did.

He's a fascinating person.

He's done everything you can imagine

from trans cons to Boston Marathon,

consecutive years, tens of years of Boston Marathons.

He's a fantastic runner with a fantastic running story.

He's raised millions and millions of dollars

in charity funds.

He's thought of as one of the first people

to do a charity run.

We talked a little bit about that.

It was a really, really cool conversation.

He is a fascinating guy.

I wish I could have had like six more hours with him.

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