All right, this is gonna be a long run episode of me and Ellie Pell, I think you probably

know who she is.

She was on the cover of this month's Ultra Running magazine.

She's won a whole bunch of races, she's fastest shit, she was an Olympic qualifier, she had

a smoking fast time at the JFK, she won a golden ticket at, I want to say black canyon,

so she's going to Western states this year.

You know, and she's a really interesting person, she's on the East Coast, Ithaca area,

and interestingly enough, I've interviewed her two other times, and both times the audio

got all fucked up.

So this was round three of me and Ellie Pell, and we had a really good time, and she is

a really nice person, so I think you're really going to like it.

She's also probably racing today at the, you know, where holdly is, the thing, someone's

running down the trail yelling with the, Gorge Waterfalls, okay, Hunter K.

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These are the guys that I interviewed, they're the physical therapists, they have nutritionists,

they're super fast runners too, it's Jake Hegey and Michael Borst, and I think Michael

Borst is also the RD of the lacrosse marathon that I'm doing in May.

So they've helped runners of all, it could be Jake too, I don't know, Michael or Jake,

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