You would be a pretty easy thing for me to write guys. This is going to be a long run back to the real show with me and Derek Murphy.

Now, Derek Murphy's the Marathon Investigator, and as you may recall a couple years ago I

got in a fight with him online and had him on the show and he and I duked it out for a

while and then off and on I've appeared on his show and kind of been the

yang to his yang or the yang to his yang.

We don't see eye to eye on everything.

We argue, but I think we have a pretty good, you know, pretty good relationship with two guys that don't see eye to eye.

And we haven't talked since the Frank Meza case, which was a guy that he reported on that ended up taking his own life.

And we also, our paths cross about the Sean Blanton, the Runbaum in an article that he recently wrote about him and

You might you might this these are usually the shows where people really agree or really disagree and sometimes there's a lot of backlash and you know I'm just saying listen to

everybody's point of view trying to have an open mind and I think that it's a good

thing that we're having conversations like this and that we can be civil. I think in

most other universes today people like me and Derek don't like each other and

scream at each other to fuck off and never talk again pretty early. So I think it's I think it's kind of nice that I have someone

that I can fight with sometimes.

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