I saw a study years ago where they asked young people, do you think most people are selfish and out to get you?

And 71% said, yes, I agree with that statement. And I can't imagine trying to go through life,

thinking that most people are selfish and out to get you. Of course you're going to try to be friends with your AI.

Welcome to the Mona Charrin Show.

So glad you could join us today.

I am delighted to welcome David Brooks, New York Times columnist, author, television commentator,

who has written many books, but the most recent, which is now out in paperback, is called

How to Know a Person, The Art of Seeing and Being Deeply Seen.

Am I getting the subtitle wrong, David?

That's the gist.

You got the gist.

I got the gist.

All right.

Well, it's a wonderful book, and I so appreciate your coming on to talk about it.

So this is a book that has tremendous amounts of research and learning and philosophy.

But at the root of what I took away from this book is that it is a moral argument.

It's about character formation.

How do you respond to that reaction?

I'm pleased by that reaction.

First of all, it's great to be on the show, Mono.

We've known each other for a long time and I've been friends for a long time, so it's good to be working together. Yeah, it really is a moral question. It started because in our society, so many people feel invisible and unseen. And that shows up in mental health problems. It shows up in suicide. It shows up in political resentment. people who feel that people on the coast don't see them, don't get them. And so I came to

believe that the central skill in any country or family or organization is the ability to make

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