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#LondonCalling: The NHS is 20th century thinking. @JosephSternberg @WSJOpinion

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🗓️ 12 April 2023

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#LondonCalling: The NHS is 20th century thinking. @JosephSternberg @WSJOpinion
https://www.theguardian.com/society/live/2023/apr/11/junior-doctors-strike-live-fears-for-patient-safety-as-four-day-nhs-walkout-begins?page=with:block-64350a9d8f08156fb81ecc6b&filterKeyEvents=false

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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batcher with Joseph Sternberg, member of the editorial

0:09.4

board of the Wall Street Journal. He writes politically economics. He's based in London.

0:14.2

The headlines in the London Times, junior doctor strike, keeping patients safe, quote,

0:19.7

will be hard. NHS bosses goes to subhead, wore an emergency cover for unprecedented 96-hour

0:26.2

walkout is very fragile. There's a picture of what I presume to be either junior doctors

0:32.3

or officials in a hospital reduced to clear, raised this hand held side. Doctors now 30%

0:39.9

off pay and then there's a hashtag for pay restoration. The numbers are surprising.

0:46.9

Junior doctors, including other personnel, GPs, paramedics, nurses, pharmacists, are paid

0:55.4

very poorly in the National Health Service. And yet the National Health Service was given

1:00.8

great credit for fighting the pandemic. Joe, is the NHS in question? I thought it was

1:07.4

like social security here. The third rail, you don't touch.

1:11.6

NHS is just such a complicated beast in British society and British politics because on the

1:17.4

one hand it is increasingly clear to everyone that the system is just creaking and that it's

1:22.0

not going to be able to keep up with the demand for its services and that it's struggling

1:26.4

to find the resources to attract and pay the kind of staff that it needs, especially

1:31.8

given the demands on its services that it's facing from a population that does seem to

1:37.3

be getting older and sicker. And yet somehow they haven't quite reached the point where you

1:43.1

can openly say that they need to completely change the system. So you do periodically hear

1:51.5

nibbling around the edges of various reform ideas, which some of them are promising because

1:57.3

they would contain within them the seeds of broader reform down the road. But so far no one seems

2:04.4

to be entirely ready to admit that if Britain is going to have a functional healthcare system,

2:10.3

10 years from now, it's not going to be the NHS in its current form.

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