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#LondonCalling: How has UK avoided a recession?@JosephSternberg @WSJOpinion

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🗓️ 14 June 2023

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#LondonCalling: How has UK avoided a recession?@JosephSternberg @WSJOpinion
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/uk-set-to-dodge-recession-but-big-problems-remain-cbi/ar-AA1cqyUL

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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachel, a Joseph Sternberg member of the editorial

0:09.8

board of the Wall Street Journal. He's in London, so he's exactly the right place in

0:14.7

a heatwave to explain a headline that surprised me when I saw it from Reuters in these last

0:20.0

hours. UK set to dodge recession, but big problems remain.

0:26.4

Joe, the recession has not arrived here. Now, the recession is not going to arrive in London.

0:33.0

Explain, please. How did London, with the troubles, the political and the economic and the

0:41.0

military troubles of the last year? And then there was Boris Johnson. How did it avoid a recession?

0:46.1

What's the trick? Well, I was kind of surprised by that news too, because I'm still not sure

0:51.5

the UK is going to avoid a recession. I mean, I certainly hope that it will, and there are,

0:56.0

you can imagine some scenarios where it would, but I think that it's a very difficult environment

1:01.5

over here. Because one of the other things that's happened today is that stronger than expected

1:07.0

labor market data have really set the stage for more interest rate increases from the Bank of

1:12.8

England moving forward. And borrowing rates are now higher than they were when we had the market

1:20.4

panic after Liz Truss's tax-cutting mini budget last autumn. So I think that there are a lot of

1:26.4

signs that health-solden businesses are going to continue coming under strain here, although falling

1:32.4

energy prices are offering some reprieve. So I think that this is a very challenging period for

1:40.0

the UK and economy. And I really have a feeling that it is on the knife edge where one

1:48.7

gentle puff of the breeze in one direction could tip it into not having a recession,

1:54.5

but just a slight movement in the other direction, and it could find itself in a contraction.

1:59.9

You have a profoundly different economy when it comes to housing. Explain that, Joe.

2:04.5

And does that influence this recession, non-recession of rapport?

2:09.7

Well, I think that one of the key differences between the US and UK economies is that

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