meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The John Batchelor Show

#LondonCalling: Dickens Christmas lights up the city. @JosephSternberg @WSJOpinion

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

Arts, News, Society & Culture, Books

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2024

⏱️ 4 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

#LondonCalling: Dickens Christmas lights up the city. @JosephSternberg @WSJOpinion

1790 ADAM SMITH

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with my colleague Joseph Sternberg. He is a member of the editorial board of the

0:09.6

Wall Street Journal. He's in London. He writes political economics. And it's time to talk Charles

0:14.2

Dickens and Scrooge and Christmas in London. I've never been there for the whole of it, Joseph.

0:19.9

I passed through once on my way from

0:22.0

Scotland in the year of the oil embargo, so it was rather dim. The lights were not lit up.

0:28.8

How does London look now here in the beginning of December? I think, you know, this is always a

0:35.1

very festive time of year for London, and they do a great show with the decorations and, you know, tourist centers like Covent Carton and all of the stores are, you know, decked out as exactly as you would expect.

0:48.1

So when you walk around, one of the things that I'm noticing as I'm living here is there's still a lot of signs of economic unease.

0:54.8

You know, a lot of the holiday stuff in the supermarket seems to be discounted in one way or another

0:59.4

is if they're afraid that people aren't going to splash out for that extra package of

1:05.0

mince pies, which is the traditional sweet treat in an English Christmas.

1:10.7

So I think that, you know, you do have these little pangs where you kind of wonder, as we look

1:15.7

back on the holiday season, how is it going to have been economically?

1:20.0

And, you know, how are people feeling right now?

1:22.3

Because I'm not sure that the country is in a particularly good mood.

1:26.5

But, you know, people also have their friends and

1:28.4

their families, and so they will find ways to be festive as best they can during the season.

1:34.2

And I think you do often see a lot of that, too. The day after Christmas is Boxing Day.

1:40.6

That's the day of exchanging gifts. Does that change the retail presentation in any

1:46.6

fashion or is it just 24 hours later you get toys? What's been interesting over the 10 years

1:52.1

that I've lived in the UK is that Black Friday has become a real thing over here, even though

1:56.5

Thanksgiving is not a holiday outside of the U.S. So everyone else in the world has imported American shopping habits, but not the

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from John Batchelor, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of John Batchelor and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.