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#LONDONCALLING: AFD VS PM MERZ'S DEUTSCHLAND. @JOSEPHSTERNBERG @WSJOPINION

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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#LONDONCALLING: AFD VS PM MERZ'S DEUTSCHLAND.   @JOSEPHSTERNBERG @WSJOPINION#LONDONCALLING: AFD VS PM MERZ'S DEUTSCHLAND.   @JOSEPHSTERNBERG @WSJOPINION
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor. I welcome Joseph Sternberg, member of the

0:14.0

editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. He's in London. He writes political economics.

0:19.3

We're looking at a major concern for all of Europe

0:22.8

right now, the government of Deutschland, challenged by a rising phenomenon called alternative

0:32.0

for Deutschland, AFD, AFD. It is a party that began in the eastern part of the country, what was East Germany,

0:42.1

but it is now a major factor in the new Bundestag. The Chancellor of Germany is for Dick Merritt.

0:49.2

That's CDU. That's recognizable. An old rival of Anglo-American, the coalition government includes Oloff Schultz's SBD Social Democrats,

0:59.4

although he's no longer leading the party, Mr. Schultz.

1:03.3

But in between his AFD, they did very well in the Bundestag,

1:09.8

and Joseph, in his new column at the Wall Street Journal

1:13.1

is asking a very difficult question about AFD, and it comes out to be a simple matter of framing it.

1:21.2

Germany still doesn't know what to do with the far-right AFD.

1:25.5

Joe, a very good evening to you.

1:27.6

What to do with, as in to work with, as in to ban, as in to inquire about its origins.

1:35.9

Good evening to you, Joe.

1:37.9

Hey, John.

1:39.0

Yeah, I mean, those are basically the options, and none of them are particularly good.

1:45.4

So, I mean, to back up and remind listeners of where we are in this long, twisting, complicated tale of German politics right now,

1:55.0

remember we had the election back in February.

1:58.4

It was a win for Friedrich Meertz and the Christian Democrats, which is the

2:03.5

main center-right party, used to be Anglo-Mirichael's party. Before that, it was Helmut Kohl's party.

2:09.5

But the problem is that Merzz only won a plurality of the vote, barely about 30%. And so that was not enough for him to be able to form a

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