Today, it's great to chat with Locke Kelly on the podcast.

Locke is an author and meditation teacher, psychotherapist, and founder of the non-profit

Open Hearted Awareness Institute.

Locke teaches in a non-sectarian human being lineage using an adult education style based

in the earliest non-dual wisdom traditions, modern science, and psychotherapy.

Locke's work is to help people access awakening as the next natural stage of human development.

He offers in-person retreats, workshops, and online video and audio courses, and he has

served on the New York Insight Teachers Council.

Locke, I'm so glad we can finally make time to chat today.

Yeah, thanks Scott.

This is really fun.

Yeah, me too.

There's lots of different avenues to go with this, but I thought we could start if you

could just offer listeners a little bit about your own background and some of your maybe

most seminal teachers in this path that you've been on.

Yeah, well, in some ways, I'm really similar to Maslow, I've been trying to put together

the science and the psychology and then wondering what these peak experiences are, what these

spiritual experience, are they spiritual, are they consciousness experience?

So early on from childhood, I would have these, what I call glimpses, or I would start by

saying maybe what I call now, peak experiences, I call them P-E-K.

So they're actually peaks into what's already here, and what's already awake, and I would

have them in sports, I would have them in nature, I would have them after kind of an intense

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