Hey folks, this is Andy with the Poor Prols Almanac.

In this episode, we're following up on our discussions of Korean natural

farming and Jadam to discuss what it means to put these into practice and to address the issues

around localizing these practices. So if you haven't listened to those episodes yet, I'd recommend

checking it out, or you could just listen to our chat today and see if you'd

like to dive in a little deeper to the subject after listening to this conversation.

In this episode, we chat with Nigel Palmer, author of the Regenerative Growers Guide to Garden

Amendments and the director and curriculum developer of Sustainable Regenerative

Gardening at the Institute of Sustainable Nutrition. We talk extensively about what it means to

provide a scientific framework to these traditional practices and how we can work with our local

conditions and resources to take care of our ecology. So take a listen and let us

know what you think. I think you'll enjoy it. Nigel, thanks so much for taking the time to come on

and talk with us. Can you tell us a little bit about your background and what got you into these alternative farming methods? Sure. Let's see. My background, I was an aerospace

engineer for 37 years and I was essentially troubleshooting complex system level problems

on airplanes. And that requires reviewing great data sets, huge

data sets with sometimes very little of real information and going through the statistics of

trying to figure out how to fix things. So I'm a very data-driven person based on that experience.

I've had a garden my whole life since I was 20 years old,

and my family had gardens when I was a kid. My wife and I, Joan, we've been gardeners throughout

our entire adult life. And gardening was just plain old fun. It's a place to get your fingers

into soil and really relate to nature, especially if you're in a

cubicle for most of the day, sitting in a garden with your feet in the ground and your soil

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