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Switched on Pop

Lizzo And The End of Genre (with Sam Harris of X Ambassadors)

Switched on Pop

Vox Media Podcast Network

Music Interviews, Music History, Music, Music Commentary

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2019

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

On her new album, Cuz I Love You, Lizzo shows off her genre bending musicality. We speak with X Ambassadors lead singer, Sam Harris, who helped co-write three songs on the album, including its eponymous track. We discuss how Lizzo's songs glide across sixties soul, seventies rock rock, eighties new wave, and nineties hip-hop. But we find that her music is much more than a history lesson in genre. Lizzo's writes vulnerable and courageous lyrics about self love, body positivity, female empowerment, and black identity. Rather than craft a singular sound for her album, Lizzo utilizes the genre that best fits the message of any given song. Her subversion of genre to the mood of her lyric matches changes in music consumption. According to Chartmetric, more people than ever are listening across genres to context based playlists. Does this mean genre no longer matters? Nate and Charlie try to find out with the help of Lizzo's genre busting music. Songs DiscussedLizzo - Better In ColorLizzo - Cuz I Love YouLizzo - JuiceLizzo - TempoMissy Elliott - Get Ur Freak OnLizzo - JeromeRadiohead - CreepLed Zeppelin - Royal OrleansPrince - When Doves CryLizzo - Exactly How I Feel (ft. Gucci Mane)Aretha Franklin - RespectAretha Franklin - Say A Little PrayerAretha Franklin - Chain Of FoolsAretha Franklin - I Knew You Were WaitingEurythmics ft. Aretha Franklin - Sisters Are Doin' It For ThemselvesListen to our Lizzo playlist that pairs each song on her new album with a song from the past. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:30.0

Welcome to Switched On Pop. I'm songwriter Charlie Harding.

0:42.0

And I'm musicologist Nate Sloan.

0:44.0

So Nate, one of my favorite episodes of Switched On Pop that we've ever done was speaking with Lizzo about General Monet's Make Me Feel.

0:50.0

I'm a new presenter.

0:51.0

And Lizzo has just come out with a new album, because I love you.

0:55.0

It's number six on the charts right now.

0:58.0

Nice. Awesome. And I want to break it down with you today, because not only is it noteworthy in its message and intrepid in its songwriting and production, it's also had me questioning some fundamental issues about the role of genre and pop music.

1:16.0

Totally. All right. Take me there.

1:19.0

Okay, for those of us who may not be familiar with Lizzo, she is a singer, rapper, and classically trained, floutist.

1:27.0

She has an alter ego called Sasha flute, which is of Sasha fierce like that.

1:34.0

Her music covers topics like self love, body positivity, female empowerment, and sex positivity.

2:05.0

Her new album is I think pretty stunning.

2:11.0

It was met with largely very positive reviews, but there was one that caused a bit of a stir.

2:17.0

Oh, pitchfork.

2:19.0

Classic. Right. They gave it a 6.5.

2:22.0

And they made a sort of interesting assessment, which was that this album was sort of genreless.

2:30.0

And here's how they put it in their words. The shiny sole pop of Lizzo's major label debut is something of a thesis on internalized and externalized confidence.

2:40.0

So much so that the music can feel like a means to a greater end, and that her music performs an important social function, but that the sounds kind of disappoint.

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